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Old Dec 29, 2006, 02:14 PM // 14:14   #1
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Talking Show Me The Money!....err Minions

Hi there
before anyone says or asks yes I tried searching no results....so I'll post what I think here.

Minion Masters have great use of minions and can do a lot in missions, quests even alliance battles but one problem with minions which can sometimes shy people away from 'Death Nova' and the nightfall elite spell 'Jagged Bones' in my opinion is the 'alt invisibility'

holding down ALT shows all the your allied npcs in there area except minions you have to scroll your mouse over a minion so his name pops up to then use skills asscicated with your chosen minion. This takes along time compared to if ALT showed the minions you could easily find and click the names of your minions and do whatever you intended to do with it.

Sure theres still alittle searching involved in that but at least it doesn't involve you scrolling your mouse where your minion could be and you don't have scroll around him till his name comes up.

So what I would really like to see is the ALT button showing all the near allied npcs including minions so that minion masters new and old could get better use of Jagged Bones, Taste of Death or Death Nova.

I know this could be seen as a 'rant' but it isn't it's just a suggestion and nothing more.

I thank you all for reading and hope you could be so kind enough to leave any comments for this post :-)
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Old Dec 29, 2006, 02:35 PM // 14:35   #2
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Old Dec 29, 2006, 02:51 PM // 14:51   #3
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Totally signed! I've posted that question in the Necromancer forum, but apparently there isn't any key for this and it would be great having it! It's really a pain using Death Nova and Jagged today.
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Old Dec 29, 2006, 02:51 PM // 14:51   #4
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bring on better undead horde mangement skillz.
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Old Dec 29, 2006, 05:07 PM // 17:07   #5
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Old Dec 29, 2006, 05:31 PM // 17:31   #6
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You know you want the Army of Ze Dead on YOUR side, right?

It's dead-good...

Sry for that one.

It'll also make all those ppl whining abt "MM is not doing anything..." shut up and realise u have (ctrl-click) 8 minons! And that they'd be screwed with you...
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Old Dec 29, 2006, 05:48 PM // 17:48   #7
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How about also adding a resizable Minion box just like the party+allies box - background bars = health/status, but give unique (to party) zero padded numbers to the minions as they are created to make it easier to remember which ones you casted stuff on, wrap numbers back to 01 after the 99th one is created (3 zero padded digits better?).

Clicking on a minion on the Minion box highlights the minion on the main screen. Clicking a minion in the main screen highlights the minion in the Minion box.

Minion box example:
Id Type Level Owner
08 Jagged Horror 16 targetdrone
[dimmed=just dead 09 Jagged Horror 16 targetdrone]
15 Bone Fiend 18 targetdrone
-- free slot -- targetdrone
-- free slot -- targetdrone
22 Bone Fiend 18 targetdrone
-- free slot -- targetdrone
-- free slot -- targetdrone
-- free slot -- targetdrone
-- free slot -- targetdrone
16 Vampiric Horror 18 Olias
-- free slot -- Olias
-- free slot -- Olias
17 Shambling Horror 18 Olias
-- free slot -- Olias
09 Flesh Golem 26 Olias
-- free slot -- Olias
-- free slot -- Olias
-- free slot -- Olias
-- free slot -- Olias

Default: List your minions and free slots first, then other player's minions after - with option to show/hide other MMs minions, and to show/hide free slots. Allow options to sort by id or sort by free slot position.

Ids on the left and zero padded to make it easier to scan. 2 digits to support multiple MMs without the numbers jumping around too much. Fine if 3 digits are better.

When a minion is created it is placed in the 1st free slot available from the top. The rest of the minions should stay in the same slots (when using in the default sort order) - shifting minions around the list will make them harder to click on.

Questions:

If a minion dies should it stay listed like a dead player in the minion box in the same position till there are 5 seconds of no further minion deaths (or till its slot needs to be used by a newly created minion), or should that slot go free immediately? If the hide free slots option is used - instant "free slot" means an instant shuffle of minion positions on the list which makes it hard to click on stuff.

Might take the hand eye coord skill out of MM'ing tho . I don't have great hand-eye coordination - so I nowadays leave the MM'ing to heroes.
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Old Dec 29, 2006, 05:54 PM // 17:54   #8
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WooO! Alt me up, scotty!

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Old Dec 29, 2006, 05:58 PM // 17:58   #9
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We definitely need some easier way of targetting minions.

The best thing would be to have a really small party list style thing, that rounded it down to showing a very small icon representing type of minion, then a tiny hp bar, like you would see over their heads, and enchant arrows showing. Could really be crammed down so that ten would take up a small space, but being able to alt on minions would be a good step towards greater minion management.
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Old Dec 29, 2006, 06:12 PM // 18:12   #10
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Making Minions is fun, maintaining them would be even better ^^
Give us this change, I promise I won't nag about anything for the next 2 days then
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Old Dec 30, 2006, 09:06 AM // 09:06   #11
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I agree with the Minions showing up with the ALT button but the Minion Box idea I would adore even more! It would be great to have a "minion party" box so that I can not only tell which minions have died but what current health all my minions have. It would make it soooo much easier to use those wonderful minion based enchantments.
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Old Dec 30, 2006, 09:20 AM // 09:20   #12
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Old Dec 30, 2006, 09:23 AM // 09:23   #13
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been suggested over and over i would have to add hero mm's do this perfectly :P
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